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, massachusetts senator john kerry. remember at the democratic convention this year when john kerry gave the bang-up speech about mitt romney learning everything he knew about russia by watching rocky 4, and his overseas trip actually being a blooper reel and all that stuff? this this great barn burner of a very funny speech by john kerry. everybody said, afterwards, where was that john kerry when he was the guy running for president in 2004? well, that john kerry actually did show up in 2004 when he was running for president. at least he showed up for the first debate against the incumbent president that year, and in that first debate against the incumbent president, challenger john kerry cleaned the president's clock. >> i made a mistake in how i talk about the war, but the president made a mistake in invading iraq. which is worse? >> president bush and senator kerry were hard at it again today, campaigning across battleground states, continuing the spirited debate they had last night on terrorism in iraq, but this time they were not on a common stage and kerry had the kind of confidence that c

. >> remember the scream? howard dean led john kerry in early polls, but then after a loss he tried to rally the troops. >> we're going to california, and texas, and new york! >> the room was noisy. and people in the room said, this sounded like a normal rally. >> and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yay! >> but because dean's microphone picked up only dean's voice, the tv broadcast made him sound crazy. >> yay! >> that unfairly may have killed his campaign. even images can matter more than issues. this video is said to have hurt john kerry. this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >>

of credit tonight. john kerry played mitt romney for the president. not hearing so much with john kerry. we'll check in with that. both candidates threw around big numbers, our own tom foreman joins us with a reality check? >> this is the dominant feature of the entire election, jobs, jobs, jobs, and the first issue these candidates lit into tonight. listen. >> over the last 30 months, we've seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back. and housing has begunto rise. >> they are suffering in this country. and we talk about evidence, lock at the evidence of the last four years, he is absolutely extraordinary. 23 million people out of work. >> you heard the fundamental claim there. the president said he claimed 5 million jobs, mitt romney says not so much. in 2009, this is what the country looked like, everywhere you see a brown state, they were losing jobs in the first full year of barack obama's presidency. unemployment, 10.6%, but three years passed, we saw increases in retail, health care, education, and look at the map today. every state that

obama his foe mitt romney, massachusetts senator john kerry. they've been working on this debate for months and months. an interesting story over the weekend, a passage about what mitt romney's been doing. this from the "new york times." it says, "mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he has memorizened and has been tracksing on aides since august." now, they're right debates are about moments but ain an amusin image. mitt romney sitting in a room peppering them with zingers. i would like to be on the wall hearing that. >> not about zingers, serious substantive policy. and in "the washington post" showing a virtual dead heat with the president and mitt romney. obama with a slight edge. 49-47%. but also in this survey, it delves down into the expectations game for this debate. what can you tell me about those numbers, peter? >> reporter: despite what chris christie said, and that is sort of another mixed message coming out of the romney campaign, romney is winning the expectations game if you look at t

will change the race. we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt who won the debate by putting the president on the defensive, spoke directly t

about it. my take is president clinton had a great advice, and i think it was for john kerry in 2004, which is, always run as if the economy is doing well. his point about that was if you run on the message as romney has that the economy is in the tank and the president has messed it up, you better hope that the economic data is sufficiently bad leading up to the election that that argument that has real trenches. the problem is not that the economic data is so great, it's not. it's clearly not getting particularly worse, and there's a lot of evidence it's getting a little better in terms of jobs and income. that totally removes the steam from the argument of, you've messed everything up. >> sure. in addition to the actual data, there's some polling that indicates that people at least feel like the economy is improving, and the right track/wrong track question. a lot of folks more than six months ago saying we think the country is moving in a good directions. how does that happen? if the numbers aren't dramatically different how can people feel like things are okay. >> you have two p

while obama is working with senator john kerry. latest polls covered with that 47% remark hurting romney. in the battleground state of pennsylvania today. >> -- make sure america leads in our homes, in our economy and in our military. i need something from you. that's my commitment to you. i need you to go out and find somebody who voted for barack obama and get him to vote for me. >> he's down but not out. can he turn it around with an october surprise? let's welcome stephanie cutter. it's going reasonably well for you guys. it's been a good couple weeks, really since the conventions. you've got a bit of momentum but i guess you're not taking this too complacently. >> no, absolutely not, piers. you know, debates can be a pivotal moment in campaigns. i remember eight years ago when john kerry was getting ready to debate george bush, we were eight points down. coming out of that first debate we were tied with george bush. so there is an opportunity for mitt romney if he takes advantage of it next wednesday night, to turn the momentum around. he not only has to win this debate but has to c

taking constructive criticism? is he bristoling? responding to jibes from john kerry playing mitt romney? >> well, the mood is a lot of hard work, you know, he's been able to take a couple of trips, you know, to the hoover dam and he went to visit our field office, but, you know, he's putting good time in to get ready for this debate. as you know we had to cut back other debate prep because of the job of being president, but he's taken the criticism well and i think that you'll see him show up tonight well prepared. >> there is a foreign policy debate exploding around him and this is supposed to be a domestic policy debate. the question now as darrell issa and know jason chav fits right letters to hillary clinton demanding answers to what happened in benghazi, questions about whether people there asked for more security, whether there was an intelligence failure, there's talk of plans for retaliation, if the targeting can be found, what is the response to the republican criticism and criticism from some democrats that this was not handled well? >> well, i'll leave some of the details to

only been in office decouple years there is already rumors of the vice presidential candidate for john kerry. apparently vilsack and the staff went to secretary of agriculture they thought they were both interviewed but she said she was not abetted by the campaign. here is a democrat they forgot they had more democrats but the press does not have historical memory so this was an anomaly father with the ohio connection she captured the national attention very quickly and with showcase her at conventions but by 2008 she was a serious contender for price president pro when she endorsed obama that also moved up her stock. she was one of the last three or four people obama was considering. there were things against her. she is not an exciting speaker. it was not a bill clinton's speech. very measured. levying off of the teleprompter. saw lead information off the cuff she is different. she is savaged with the press and i actually brought up clip of jonge to work -- jon stewart on "the daily show" lampooning the speech she gave in response to the president bush "state of the union." it was no

of senators who ran i think first in 1983 like john kerry. he said in his campaign the issue never came up because there was no clash. there was no conflict. part of the deal was, i mean, look, obama and speaker boehner would have a much harder time making a deal because they had problems in both of their parties as they say, but in talking about this with them if they'd had -- what's the word? -- courage to say let's make a deal and go out, get before the microphones and the cameras and say this is what it's going to be, and this is going to be painful, and we're going to ask all democrats and republicans to vote for it because we have to protect our financial future, because that's what it's about at the end. they essentially told me they thought it would work, that they could have done it. and, of course, they did not. yes. >> are bob, that's a good lead-in to my question. the grand bargain that came to the floor towards the end, the president put entitlements on the table. i don't recall the world unraveling from that notion. how real do you suppose that proposal was, and are we likely

against john kerry and moveon.org said you just wait. and now you're hearing it frantically on the other side, which ironically, again, they are putting fox news in the grand conspiracy. >> what about the conference call today that we have to plan and organize? >> exactly. my point is here we've got a couple of local polls that are showing this, and more importantly, and you guys talk to the romney people all the time. i certainly talk to them all the time. i can tell you, they're not pushing back on these ohio polls. they know they are down. how far? are they five down? six? seven? eight? yeah, probably. does anybody in the romney campaign think they're only down by a point or two in ohio? no. they know ohio is falling into troubled territory. >> and they're pretty far behind in new hampshire. they're fighting a dogfight right now in north carolina. >> yeah. >> it's october 1st. that was a state that among the swing states, that was a state that was supposed to be the relatively easy gift for romney. there's a one or two-point race in north carolina on october 1st. they're facing an uph

didn't do as much prep as he might have -- all the prep was against john kerry channeling the mitt romney we've seen for the last five years. >> what's interesting, mika -- >> we ought to be looking at that. >> we have steve schmidt on yesterday. steve schmidt would call me during the 2008 campaign. and it used to drive him crazy, and the mccain campaign crazy, about how arrogant the obama team was. he was, like, they don't respect us at all. he'd go, why -- you know, they don't think we have anything. and that was the attitude that they set forth. and i've just got to believe also there was a huge level of overconfidence going into that romney debate. kind of like the dukakis team had in 1988, that they were the smartest people on the planet, and they looked down on the waters and the great unwashed, and i think maybe he was in shock that mitt romney came out and was effective as he was. >> or maybe they felt and maybe rightfully so, they didn't really need the debate as much as they thought they did. >> maybe they listened to donny. >> but i want to know, mark halperin, what you

back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did better at the next debate. but he did narrow the gap after that first debate. and in a race that's as closes a this, wolf, that could make all the difference. >> very close in florida and virginia, for example and a debate tonight could impact the undecided voters. thanks, gloria. >> uh-huh. >>> you want to talk about the trial of the century, it could have happened if the raid in pakistan had unfolded differently. and a woman who came close to death in portland, maine's harbor can thank her lucky stars for some alert bystanders ready to help her. everyone has goals. take the steps to reach yours, with us with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth management advisor can help you. every step of the way. from big steps, to little steps. since 1863 we've helped guide our clients, so they can take the steps to hel

remember back in 2004, george w. bush got obliterated by john kerry in the first debate. it was one of the worst performances in a debate i've ever seen. remember he asked for the extra time? then he'd just look in the camera and go, it's hard. it's hard. and yet he still won. this is not -- this keeps the game going, right? >> it do. i think -- i kept thinking about mark twain. the rumors of romney's political death were greatly exaggerated, but twain still died. >> well, there is that. god. thank you this morning for that insight. >> can we go to breaking news or a developing banner on that one? mark twain, dead. >> still dead. >> still dead. >> but i thought it was as -- i think '04 -- >> you know, he's funnier in central time zone. i'm sorry, go ahead. >> on something. >> you should see the stat yuue they have of willie geist down here. >> it's huge. >> i'm going to cite my -- the person who knows most about politics in my life, my 8-year-old daughter who came in and asked, why is president obama so mad? >> there you go. >> walked by the screen. >> i think that's a really, you k

, john kerry with bush, it helps elevate them. there were times it didn't, bob dole first time didn't help him. >> that's a special case, hard to be on stage with president clinton have that turn out well, he is particularly uniquely capable of drawing in an audience. >> people thought that of reagan, he had a bad first outing. >> rag had eagan had an age thi. clinton is extraordinary. i think debates are so different at this moment in a campaign. we have folks calling this campaign the early voting has started, the sense that this is, you know, still sort of a meaningful contribution is up for grabs. >> mike, watching one of the things we've seen, something the polsters warned about, fewer and fewer folks claim the debates are as decisive for them. >> i think they will be. you still have a small undecided. that's what makes the difference. >> they watch, right? that's the hope, you want to be sure they watch. >> yes, i think both sides want that. ratings will be good for the debates, it is a great opportunity, in terms of expectation setting, they're excellent. wouldn't be at this

are running the process. john kerry is a formidable challenger there. he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough time. as that

preparations. he will be joined by senator john kerry who is playing the role of republican presidential nominee mitt romney. >>> there is trouble for florida's republican party where a voter registration controversy is brewing. the state's party fired a private consulting firm it hired to help registered voters after learning it may have submitted fraudulent registration forms. suspicious forms have been discovered in at least five florida counties. >>> rick santorum says mitt romney and the republicans should support todd akin. santorum says an akin win is necessary. akin is challenging democratic senator claire mccaskill. he has been criticized by both democrats and republicans for using the term legitimate rape. >>> down ballot politics are next with maryland governor martin o'malley and missouri senator roy blunt. [ male announcer ] now you can swipe... scroll... tap... pinch... and zoom... in your car. introducing the all-new cadillac xts with cue. ♪ don't worry. we haven't forgotten, you still likthings to push. [ engine revs ] the all-new cadillac xts has arrived, and it's brin

president obama has had four mock debates with senator john kerry who is of course no stranger to presidential debates. he also i can tell you had one more practice session last night after president obama had a campaign event in las vegas. now, as you pointed out, both sides are really trying to tamper down expectations. lavishing praise on the other candidate. that is because there's so much at stake in these debates really for most candidates. mitt romney tried to turn his campaign around, but president obama trying to hold on to the narrow lead you mentioned in your introduction. really trying to tamp down expectations. should also point out that president obama holding his debate camp right here in nevada which is a key swing state. one of the states he's hoping to win in november. he has a small lead in this state according to the abc wall street journal poll. he's trying to garner excitement by holding his debate camp here. he had a campaign event last night in las vegas. campaign officials tell me we shouldn't be surprised to see him shake a few hands over the next few

back and cleans his clock in the second one. john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is mitt romney going to embrace massachusetts, his legacy there, in the coming weeks? it's a sharp pivot. >> wasn't just during the debate. he was on fox news saying his 47% comments were completely wrong after doing a press conference the night after saying he stood by the basic premise of it. they are pivoting, the extent to which it goes i have no idea. the extent to which he said he never wrote that op-ed never go bankrupt we'll have the full turn there. to get back to the first turn, i don't think their contradictory attacks by the obama campaign -- it

john kerry called for rice to stay on. the republican party has severed ties with a virginia based consulting group it has paid $3 million to this year alone. the group is being investigated for voter fraud in nine counties in florida. right now, my story of the week. the republican bubble trap. if you follow politics, you've probably noticed that polling of the presidential election has swung quite decidedly in the president's favor over the last couple of weeks. the real clear politics polling average now has obama up 4.1 points over mitt romney in national poles. nate silver's prediction model put barack obama's odds of winning the election above 80% for the first time ever. swing state polling just this week seems to confirm the trend. a new quinnipiac "new york times" cbs poll shows surprisingly strong leads for the president. the galup tracking poll shows obama up six points. it's pretty hard to survey the polling data and not come to the conclusion that barack obama is beating mitt romney, that if the election were held today barack obama would win and that romney has a rela

? are they that important? >> absolutely. you know, i, eight years ago, was on the kerry campaign. and john kerry came into that first debate and changed the entire dynamic of that race. we were eight points down. and we came out of the debates tied or even a little bit ahead. so absolutely, debates are very important. it's the first time that voters really get to see these two candidates side by side. and to compare not just their styles, because i know a lot of people will be talking about style tonight. but really their visions. the details, the specifics, where they want to take the country. how they're answering some of these tough questions, and whether they're giving real answers. so absolutely. i think mitt romney has an opportunity to shake up the race tonight. you know, obviously, you know, expectations, both sides have been playing the expectations game. the reality is that challengers win the first debate more often than not. you know, you might think that's me playing expectations, but that's also a fact. and we know that mitt romney is a good debater. the president's a pretty good debate

2008. >> perhaps, john kerry is a skilled debater, but john kerry also wants to be secretary of state. i wonder how tough he went in those sections because that was the charge against david stockman after ronald reagan in '84. that's why reagan, he was too tough on him. >> ifill: can we talk about body language? one of the thinks we remember is the way al exwoar crowded george w. bush and gave him the look or the way someone sighed, the way the two relate standing next to each other. did you get anything watching that? >> i'm not sure there will be a moment easy to repeat over and over again in the next several days, television shows. i do think romney looked aggressive, maybe a little over-aggressive, a bulldozer, kept going, kept going. i thought if maybe there was a slight advantage, at certain times the president looked a little peefd, a little stiff, maybe, but i wouldn't say there was a big difference between the two. >> woodruff: how did you see it? >> i thought romney didn't know when to take the foot off the pedal a couple of times. he just kept going. >> woodruff: he wanted

states. michael moore got on twitter. this is what happens when you pick john kerry as a debate coach. >> gretchen: and what about bill haeh. obama made great points tonight, but unfortunately most for mitt romney. >> brian: that is compelling insight. thank goodness for twitter. i had a chance to see what the world thought. gretchen, tell us what is happening. the middle east is in flames. >> gretchen: foreign policy did not come up last night it was not part of the schedule. maybe they will talk about it next time. this is what happened last night. turkey firing rounds in syria. this is the second straight day. ♪ it comes one day after a shell inside of syria landded on a home in turkey leaving a mom, three daughters and another woman dead. syria later offered condollences. now a deadly form of menigitus leaving four people dead in five states. that number could grow. it is believed that a steroid injected for back pain started the outbreak. it could affect anyone receiving the injection. the massachusetts pharmacy that makes the injection recalling three lots of the drug. >> 1980

kept taking the punches over and over again, i think john kerry might be enjoying the engineer of his second term right now. and folks at home you have know idea what it was like watching the debates with these folks here. however, i don't necessarily think this is a bad thing. i think barack obama was trying to play out of the john mccainhand book, be cool and restained. what you saw tonight was that approach didn't work and you will see a different strategy the next debate. >> eliot: mitt romney finally cut back to the middle. he wasn't the radical far-right extreme voice. we saw a rational analytical and empathetic mitt romney and president obama did nothing to take that apart. and i'm just amazed that we didn't see a more aggressive cross-examination. >> cenk: going into the debate i thought mitt romney would over do it going for zingers. it turned out president obama overdid it by playing defense too much. we would give way too many numbers, and it seemed like he would want to bore the audience enough that they would change the channel and we would mainta

where the challenger, john kerry took the battle to george bush and bush the president seemed very uneyes, didn't seem comfortable and didn't seem like he wanted to be challenged. that's what i felt tonight. the challenger mitt romney felt more like in charge, was in command of his principles. martha: chris wallace anchor of his own show. >> now that i've had a nice sleep i see things definitely. martha: it's a fascinating calm par con to go back to george bush where he said, it's hard to be question he said there in the evening. what do you think president obama learned last night and what do you think we'll see differently next time around? >> i'm sure they prepared him at great length, but you've got to remember there is a bubble to being president and they don't get talked to that way in public, they don't get talked to that way in private, and i got to think that after four years, because ace say it reminded me of george w. bush in 2004, that they don't like somebody getting in their face, and mitt romney got in his face, and romney's command of the facts was really quite asto

remember how downtrodden bush was in the afternoon. john kerry -- they were toasting mr. president in boston. >> this is where some of the participation rate questions also come into play. these are in person interviews. people with different views, if they perceive the interviewer is coming from a different place, they might choose not to participate. so yes, we've all got to watch with a grain of salt. all i know is, joe, the campaigns themselves are making their decisions based on the same polls that we're looking at. >> i know. a different one every day. we needed the music with this one. >> i'm losing on that one. everybody disagrees. >> joe, how was ian poulter yesterday? >> oh, my god. it was awesome. you know what we're going to do now? we're going to elevate him to the unofficial squawk golf analyst. all he's got to do -- whenever anything is going on -- i mean, he's very frank and sort of has an edge to him. what's wrong? >> nothing. >> you wanted to ask a question now that we're talking about ian poulter? >> i'll just tell you that we're doing a sports thing out here, to

senator john kerry, who has been there himself. >> what happens during these mock debates? >> they do not talk a lot about what happens during these. what they try to do is try to set a situation that is as realistic as possible for the actual debate. they do it at the same time and night the debate will take place. they set up a set just like it will look like in denver. they are used the environment. they have somebody to play the moderator and ask questions. obama does not like sound bites. they force him to give answers. they do whatever they can to simulate the debate situation. >> you quote a former chief of staff to boast -- to vice- president alkyl and joe -- al gore and joe biden. let me read some of his points. -- can you elaborate? >> sure. he is not really specifically using this advice for romney or obama, although i have no doubt many of these tips are being passed on to president obama. it is interesting. that was my first short summary of what he has to say. he went into more debt -- depth about each one of those things. impressions of the debate are formed very early.

. but remember, john kerry won the first debate against bush. >> bill: i find that more often than not with these debates and i've seen so many of them and reported on so many of them both people come in very well trained. you know, they've been through the issues. i was talking with somebody yesterday who was helping joe biden in the debates. they've got books this thick. it is very, very unlikely they're going to make a major mistake. so i think more often than not both candidates do okay. one might be slightly ahead on one answer or something but basically, they survive. the debate doesn't move the needle that far right? >> yeah. i think that the biggest thing for the president, i'm sure his advisers are telling him don't do the line against hillary clinton, you're likable enough because obama has a huge likable edge. just be likable and on the issues he knows the issues. they both know the issues but don't come across as petulant or anything like that. >> bill: or too defensive. and so if they survive the deba

axelrod anita dunn and senator john kerry. kerry is playing romney during the mock debates with the president. the team is hunkering down to get the president ready. romney is campaigning in denver today with a stop with the wings over the rockies museum. paul ryan is at a rally in iowa. early voting in iowa is now underway. a washington post poll out this morning shows 63% of registered voters expect president obama to win reelection and a washington times zombie poll has the president with a pretty good lead. more coming up after the break. stay with us. you're about to watch an ad message created by a current tv viewer for capella university. matter. education is the key. it is the vehicle. it's the way in which we evolve. every journey is different every possibility is unique. but the beginning, the beginning is my craft. i'm an ordinary person striving to achieve extraordinary things. it started with a dream and i'm on my way there. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting >> broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current t.v., this is the bill pre

, sometimes in a word, smug, so we're told both senator john kerry playing mitt romney and senator rob portman playing the president have been pretty tough, pretty tough on the candidates in these practice sessions to try to help them prepare for what can be pretty stressful high pressure moments on that debate stage. >> i can't imagine. and specifically in colorado, one of the big issues there, immigration, mitt romney making news in talking to the denver post that, you know, if and when he's elected that he would not revoke that executive order that president obama recently issued, you know, to protect some illegal immigrants and documented immigrants who came here as young children. let me quote, in romney's words, the people who have received the special visa that the president has put in place, which is a two year visa should expect it will continue to be valid. i'm not going to take something that they have purchased. what does that tell you, when you read into that, is he marching toward the center here? >> reporter: well, it tells you that he's politically being smart. it also tells yo

mike dukakis and john kerry who all didn't do very well. if you were picking a presidential candidate who would you choose? >> anyone but mitt. >> anyone but mitt romney. this guy a one percenter hiding money in the cayman islands. not hiding, it's probably legal but putting money there and he's the former governor of massachusetts. we have not had a person from massachusetts win the presidency since 1960. ok? >> wow. >> before the civil rights act was passed was the last time we had a president from massachusetts win ask i'm not saying mitt romney is a bad guy. i'm sure he's a nice guy, but i will say that if i was going to write a movie and create a bad guy orvilleen, i would have them be a really, really wealthy out of touch guy who stashes his money in cayman bank accounts and fires people for a living. >> you know, because he likes to fire people. >> he likes being able to fire people. >> and get him -- get him a car garage for his vacation home. >> car elevator. >> elevator, yes car elevator. there are so many things about mitt romney. we could go on and on. i'm sure i's a very

. it is as if -- very much like bush-kerry. bush came in with a lead, not huge, he came in to play for a draw and john kerry came in to win. the exact same happened tonight. mitt romney came in to win this debate with passion and it looked as if the president came in, as long as i play for a draw, i keep a lead and go forward. if that's the case, i think a very close race just got a lot closer. >> really? played for a draw and succeeded? >> no, the president played for a draw, but the guy that comes in and plays for a win usually gets the victory. >> does a tie go to the challenger? >> i think it will go to the president, because he is the income dent. i believe mitt romney did himself a lot of good. he came to play. he came to change the script in this campaign and he was able to do that tonight by talking about the things that he's done in a bipartisan fashion, but i think the president had to lay out what he will do in the future. he was able to do that. but tonight, mitt romney was a little bit more aggressive than the president. >> and austin, president obama trying to go against mitt romney's ta

practice with bill clinton. john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's been exactly one year since steve jobs passing. and my unsolicited advice today is for all of the mavericks in america, all the peopl

boot legging. john kerry married and then left his yacht in providence or something, didn't he. and then john edwards flipping his magnetic business card at all the ambulances going by made $80 million. it's weird, isn't it? >> he was a good lawyer. >> and a hell of a human being, too, johnny. we have ten seconds. >> i don't think additional incremental disclosures about offshore investments will make a big deal. >> all right, my friend, thank you. >>> when we come back, we'll get to kevin ferry from the cme, we'll find out what's most likely to drive action on the second day of the quarter. smart comes with 8 airbags, 3 a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. monarch of marketing analysis. with the ability to improve roi through seo all by cob. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. i'm going b-i-g. [ male announcer ] good choice business pr

government, left wing democrat who just this morning we learned has -- a unanimous senate panel led by john kerry is demanding he tell the truth about benghazi. every time you turn around, underneath this zone of the great speaker there is a president with massive unemployment. they just downgraded the economy for the last three months yesterday. the manufacturing index is collapsing. and so i'm just suggesting -- >> this benghazi story by the way is a huge story. right now dee dee myers the fbi won't even go into benghazi because it is so dangerous which leads you to wonder why they didn't listen to warnings before the attack and before our u.s. ambassador was killed. this is one of those issues and i think charles krauthammer said it perfectly today in "the washington post" that if mitt romney actually knew how to put forth an argument. >> right. >> he could really be grabbing attention. >> one of the problems was he jumped out ahead of this and politicized it in the hours immediately after the attack which discredited him in the media term as a spokesman for the other side. >> it was --

for president obama. you have senator john kerry, who has been there himself. >> what happens during these mock debates? >> they do not talk a lot about what happens during these. what they try to do is try to set a situation that is as realistic as possible for the actual debate. they do it at the same time and night the debate will take place. they set up a set just like it will look like in denver. they are used the environment. they have somebody to play the moderator and ask questions. obama does not like sound bites. they force him to give answers. they do whatever they can to simulate the debate situation. >> you quote a former chief of staff to vice-presidents al gore and joe biden. let me read some of his points -- can you elaborate? >> sure. he is not really specifically using this advice for romney or obama, although i have no doubt many of these tips are being passed on to president obama. it is interesting. that was my first short summary of what he has to say. he went into more depth about each one of those things. impressions of the debate are formed very early. in the first half

of those things tonight. megyn talk about that. cautionary note about maggie. remember, john kerry had a really good first debate against george bush. accused of sleep walking in that debate. bush went on a long bike ride that day. was a little bit tired. bush came back in next two debates and cleaned up and obviously went on to win. >> history of incumbent presidents losing first debate. we saw that with president reagan when he was running for re-election. these guys, they're not used to being challenged they become so convinced what they're doing. they heard it for 4:00 years. they don't realize you're making sale all over again. >> right. for obama, can you reelect me. i have got work to do here. let's get this over with. 37 days to go up wrap this up. people want to see you fight for it and really win the job again. >> i think one of the things they're probably debating internally whether or not they played it to save. >> right. >> that to me seemed like a debate, they went in, you know what? got the thing basically wrapped up stall stall a little bit. don't look con today sending

of your opponents most important strengths and turn it into a weakness. john kerry's war record and turn it into a weakness. mitt romney's business experience, turn it into a weakness. after a certain point, do not blow your whole campaign war chest going after people who may never end up going your way. instead, go back and try to find out how to inflate the turnout among your base using technology and micro targeting. i think the obama campaign has done extremely well with that. 2004, if you are going to look at a model, that is one to look at in terms of the strategy employed in this campaign, at least on the obama side. >> i doubt that karl is going every day to check his mail box for that check. [laughter] >> that is pretty safe. we are going to the middle and then we are going back over that way, to that side. >> i was just wondering, both candidates showed they are qualified to be president last night. i was wondering if you thought the demeanor was the main factor as opposed to the actual message that they were saying and the points they were making? they both had their own facts

to do what john f. kerry has nearly always done, find a way to win. >> you lie and not both endlessly. they don't have a name on it, john o'neill. >> hold that, hold that. >> you lied -- >> what about mr. carthy, mr. o'neill? >> i am appalled. >> and understand why you are screaming. you can't afford the truth. >> you never met -- >> cbs news has exclusive information including documents that now sheds new light on the president's service record. 60 minutes has obtained government documents that indicate mr. bush may have received preferential treatment in the guard after not filling his commitments. >> vote republican and you vote to enable george bush to keep rolling as an emperor, a child emperor. but an emperor. >> i have to tell you, as part of record in this case this election. the feeling most people when they hear barack obama speech, i feel that's going up my leg. i don't have that too often. it's a dramatic event. there's nothing to do with politics and has to do with the guy we have about our country. and that is an objective assessment. >> i read that she once took a psych

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